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I truly think this is a bad year to be going for this fire truck and am disappointed the fire department is even asking for it. I understand that the fd said it took a couple years last time. Maybe they should understand that residents didn’t feel they needed it last time and then they finally shifted a few voters, (last time it barely passed).
By doing this during such hard times and them telling people they really dont need the truck, they have caused A LOT of people in town to talk about the “greed” of the department, even though I am sure they have some good members.
I also agree with the other comments, people are losing their houses. Fire calls are down more and more every year. We have 4 pumpers that work now, and 2 of them are more expensive pumper-tankers. We have a forestry that works fine and 2 squad trucks that work. This is Lebanon, cut us some slack and lower the taxes. I understand you want a new truck to impress sanford when you go there mutual aid as I was told the reason we needed a “special, custom chassis truck” during the november election. But as far as I am concerned, if we did ever get this truck, its for Lebanon. Send an older truck. My taxes pay for it, not Sanford. Keep the equipment in town. I understand they come over here, but they will be happy I am sure with one of the many other trucks you have.
no new fire truck this year and I am disappointed they are asking for $400,000 during such bad times.
Greed: I just read your post some more. I dont think anyone is questioning the volunteers or their work. I do laugh, because Lebanon averages 2 fires a year and we have had a shed which brought in like 15 trucks including a ladder truck and I think the paper said 50 firefighters for a 10×12 shed. The other fire was a garage. I am not seeing many rescues as you depicted in your dramatical story above. Lets keep to the facts and not try to “scare” people into why we need a $400,000 fire truck to be used 2 times a year.
Didn’t Acton and Newfield just buy new engines for their departments? I think one was a 1984 and one a 1985. These trucks are older then the one we just sank all this money into to make it a viable and good fire truck. Why? Why? Why?
I for one am happy that people are FINALLY becoming aware of all the waste in this town. It truly has got to stop. Instead of HELPING THEMSELVES, why not help the person who is loosing their home, or helping the families in need, whatever it may be?
Why only think of what their department wants? I say want because they surely don’t need another fire truck. Also, I think it is sad that they throw a hissy fit and try to intimidate to get what they WANT.
Some of these people who intimidate to get what they want should NOT be in any department. What’s wrong with this picture.
In most cases the people that volunteer and work for the town are good people.
They work long hours, doing varied things, they put up with a lot of bull from people who could never be satisfied even if they did it for free.
It also is not there fault that residents have lost the reigns and (perhaps never had) control over their the spending and town policy.
It is our fault for letting it happen.
We should be mad at ourselves and resolve to improve, and improve rapidly.
Face It, costs money just to be a town, we pay state and county fees, we require basic services, which is about what we have. We just need tighter checks and balances, and more disclosure and transparency EVERYWHERE.
I know that MOST people who volunteer are great and caring people. They only want good for this town. I am talking about the good ol’ boys network who have had a hold on this town for over 30 years or so. It’s time we take it back.
I agree with most of what you say Glen except I don’t think we need to be mad at ourselves. This town has been like this for a long time. It is very frusturating because the good ol’ boys just keep on finding ways to hold the reigns. The unethical and sometimes close to illegal things that are done here have GOT TO STOP.
It is frusturating for us who tell the truth and try to do things the right and proper way.
OK – What is going on with Lebanon – First let me say that my ties to the community are more than 20 years. We voted out the police department (that’s right Lebanon doesn’t have crime) – let me tell from first hand experience that is a bunch of bull. Now we don’t want to give the FD what they NEED in order to protect us and our property – are you kidding me? I know the economy is tough (I live it too) – but maybe it is time for the residents of Lebanon to pull up their big boy and girl pants and pay the extra taxes it will take to make us a better community. I simply don’t get it. As far as having both the FD and Rescue department – I will lobby to have the FD personnel certified as EMT’s and roll it all into one program, do away with the Rescue department. Please don’t forget that we have both Sanford and Rochester within minutes of us – a trained firefighter would be able to manage any situation until either department arrived. I give up – it is the ignorance of the town selectmen that have me wanting to leave. If ignorance is bliss then at least Lebanon must be the most blissful place in the world.
Though I don’t agree with joining the two departments. I do understand where you come from but I urge this as an option if we dropped rescue we could use there budget to hire an outside ambulance company and there is no liability on the town. (it would actually cost less than the rescue budget).
this is partly what is wrong with our town.uninformed residents.do you remember when we hired out our ambulance service? it cost about $200,00 a year and THIS WAS FOR DAYTIME COVERAGE ONLY !! being the first one at a parachuting accident several years ago a young lady crashed onto upper guinea road.the sheriff and rescue were on scene in minutes.the ambulance was back in somersworth n.h. for the night.the ambulance was called and arrived which seemed like an eternity.once on scene the girl was transported to the hospital after the ambulance got lost going there!!!!is this what you really want for alot more money with no revenue from the transports?i hope this situation doesn’t happen to you because i remember this like it was yesterday.unfortunately the girl past away .i am not beating a drum for the rescue but i have seen the alternative and it isn’t pretty.
I remember that incident – the young lady was an experienced jumper who had an very unfortunate outcome. That was very tragic – I remember watching the jump from my backyard. I think that incident made an impact on all of us.
I still think that it would better serve Lebanon to have the fire personnel certified as EMT’s and run it out of 1 department instead of two separate budgets.
I have to agree with chris gilpatrick. Alot of the thinking is due to uninformed residents. While I admit I don’t know much about either rescue or fire departments, I do have sense enough to know that when we just spent all that money to have a fire truck fixed, why would I want my taxes to go up and say yes to a $200-400,000 brand new fire truck when the rescue dept. is self funding? and they have NOT had a turn at a new vehicle, which is much in need.
VOTE NO NEW FIRE TRUCK.. And Oh lord, please don’t combine the two and make the fire personnel certified as EMT’s!!!!!!
I certainly did not place my opinions here to be told that I am uninformed – I vote at each and every election and generally am pretty well versed in politics on the local, state and federal level. I run a very successful organization and I work at Goodall. I am college educated and I like to think a pretty intelligent woman. As a law abiding, tax paying citizen of Lebanon, my input is just as important as anyone elses. The difference may be that I am not in the “Good Old Boys Club” and I have no aspiration to run for any office. I simply want to see Lebanon thrive and grow into itself. Many local departments REQUIRE their FD staff to be certified as EMT’s. Have you toured the FD recently? Have you looked at the equipment the fire fighters are using? I am not sure about other locations in Lebanon, but I have a well, I don’t have city water or sewer – do you not think that a pump truck would be useful to the community?
Am I pro fire fighter? You bet – I am a military brat whose father just happened to be a military fire fighter – I have seen first hand the danger these men and women are placed in and how fast things can go wrong –
There is a better way for Lebanon to do things and it is time for everyone to put their issues aside and do what is best for the citizens and the town.
Geeze – I could go on and on – from the budgets to the elementary schools (which I did not allow my children to attend, I sent them out of state for school). Is this the way the town wants the residents to view the community?
I am NOT in the “Good Ol’ Boys Network” either and I will NEVER be a part of that.
It’s great that people can come on here and voice their opinions that is what it is for.
I also vote at every election and am pretty well versed in local politics. I am sorry you took that statement personal, please don’t. That was not my intention at all. It’s good that people can come and share their ideas and thoughts!!
Oh, one more thing, I am PRO rescue but admire the fire department and their volunteers for all they do……….
dee, i apologize if you thought i was referring to you.i was referring to outsourcing our ambulance service which we have tried cost huge amounts more than the roughly $80,000 we currently spend.the rescue has a large group of volunteers dedicated to our town at a very little cost.as i stated i don’t beat a drum for rescue or fire but the town should be greatful for what they do.without the training,time committement,etc. these two department budgets would be unbearable to the taxpayer.as i’ve always stated ,look at other towns and see what our town and future generations could have if some of our residents weren’t so greedy and worried of their future and not our towns.
Its funny to see Whartever come back as some new names!!
The rescue costs the town zero and has 3 times the calls then the fire department. The rescue budget is like $75,000 and that is paid for all by revenue. The fire department has 1/3 of the calls and they costs us $120,000 plus now they want ANOTHER new fire truck.
We are so fortunate to have Lebanon Rescue, who have received countless awards for their work. They are the busiest all volunteer department in the state and they have incredible people.
When we had the outsourcing of the ambulance, it was like $200,000 a year. We pay zero, so whartever/dee, maybe you should check your math on what is cheaper.
Now the fire departments wants to raise taxes again and buy a luxury pumper truck to replace one that is barely used and is the 4th pumper. Most towns have 2. We have 4 pumpers/tankers, a forestry, 2 squad trucks and a boat.
That is why MOST towns have seperate ambulances then the fire department. Large cities mostly have combined departments.
Just shows how ignorant some people with half truths can be!
Dee, do you think the 3 other pumpers can handle the calls in Lebanon, since most towns do it with 2. Yes I am aware they had 2 fires last year and most years. I do know we have had that massive shed fire thats smaller then my bathroom and a small fire which one fire truck put out. So why do we need all these trucks? We are the only town with so many trucks.
Our fire department has always been expensive and poorly managed.
Then you look at how pro-active the rescue is, they have triple the calls, triple the members, triple the manpower hours and they cost us nothing.
The fire department has a huge budget, has lots of fluff in their budget, and never does anything pro-active.
Am i pro-rescue, you bet (as you put it in yours). Am i pro-fire, I honor the men and women who do their jobs, but we could contract with sanford for fire services and pay less and have better service.
I agree, most towns are seperate. From what I have seen, and I have lived in town my entire life and raised my kids in this town, the fire and rescue was combined for a short time. The current fire chief and rescue chief were appointed right about the same time. Skip wanted nothing to do with rescue and everyone felt the ambulance should not be part of the fire department. The selectmen appointed Samantha as rescue chief and Samantha and Jason and all the members have won multiple state and national awards for our community.
We are so fortunate to have them in town. I have some information that I recently learned about expenses for the fire department that I want to share to see the fleecing they do, but I want to confirm them before I say them. I check before I speak, whartever or whatever you call yourself today!
Dee, I also have several family members that work at Goodall and they say Lebanon Rescue is top notch and probably the best in the county.
You are also wrong, most fire departments do not train their members to be EMT’s. Sanford does because they are a city and they run the ambulance.
Combining them unless we could get Samantha or Jason to run it would be a bad thing, because of the mis-management of the fire department
dee, yes a pump truck would be helpful. We just bought them a new one, they have 2 other pumper tankers and they have a fourth that is the pumper we just put all the money into that has a warranty – and the fire department says they don’t need the truck?? Yes, we have 4 pumpers, more then most any town or CITY in the region.
Dee -
I also agree. I know members on both departments. Why do you think the rescue has more certified firefighters then the fire department does? They left the fire department due to the mis-management.
You should check around before you speak. You are wrong, more then 80% of ambulances are not part of the fire department. In some cities they do combine them.
If Samantha would do both jobs, I would say bring it on. But then we would lose grant money and many other things.
I am thankful that everything the rescue has and all the operating budgets for the past few years has cost the town ZERO!! Keep up the good work.
I am not anti-fire, I am anti-ANOTHER NEW FIRE TRUCK and RAISING MY TAXES AGAIN!!
I agree with you Chris, I think we are fortunate to have all the volunteers in town. I have seen how hard they work and I just don’t think we need a 4th pumper at a cost of $400,000, which I think is more then Sanford and Rochester has paid for their new pumpers which are top of the line since they use them so much, not just 2 times a year.
If you look at rochesters public record they spent 1 million on there new tower truck and I believe they spent about 500-600K on there new pumper.
Why is it that this year wakefield a town much like our own is buying a new firetruck, a new ambulance, and a new police car?
Rescue does not have more certified firefighters then the firedept. and though some are firefighters in other towns it is incredibly hard to be a firefighter in two towns at the same time.
(if you look at any new depts hiring requirments most require there staff to be atleast emt-B and most are requiring emt-I) Portsmouth NH requires Paramedic level.
And how bout this idea
350,ooo (new fire truck)
-200,000 (left over winter road budget_
——————
150,000
-200,000 (increase in road budget*?)
————————-
+50,000
* Why is the road budget going up 200K if he has 200K left over from last year.
and rescues ambulance is a 2005. (they do have a new vehical that is a 2010 ford expedition)
Did you Know the town insurance will not cover Firefighters who are trained as emt’s who do medical care so non of them will. (why risk there butts for someone who can later sue them
as for the FD budget It is pretty well detailes where they list.
How much they need for maint, New gear, repairs, tools, deisel, etc.
I dont think there would be anything wrong with training the fireman as EMT’s simply because the budget will drop. Now I know those of you who love the Coles and think they do a good job and they do. But there is no need to pubicize everything. Like I look at some old papers. Why is there a right up on Lebanon rescue cleaning there station? this should be no special occasion. Be it is a nice thing to do it does not need to be in the paper. Jason is really good with PR but most of it is not needed. So the fire dept. doesnt publish when they clean the station or repaint. etc. its not something people need to know.
I would think that everyone on here should before bashing the FD go town to the station one day and meet the firefighters they bash and yes even get a tour of the station.
BTW- lebanon is about 3x as big and has double the population of acton so yes I believe that 4 engines is well deserved. Matter of fact lebanon is about the same size as rochester Land wise and rochester has 14 vehicals.
Whartever/Greed or whatever you are tonight.
You have proved that a little bit of information proves ignorance. Where to start?
The ambulance was approved and purchased in 2003. So, it is not a 2005. Nice try though!!
The expedition, which is a first response and command vehicle and cannot transport, was GIVEN to the rescue in 2009 and is a 2009, not 2010 (again, you were wrong).
Rochester spent about $300k for their newest pumpers, again you are wrong. They did pay $1 million for a speciality tower truck that Lebanon does not or will not ever need.
The rescue did a press release that I saw on line about saving the town over $2,000 in labor costs to repaint and winterize the station. They showed the citizens what good work they do and saves us money. The papers decide what goes in. I know several reporters and Lebanon Fire sends just as much in, but its not newsworthy and doesn’t make the news. When they save us $2,000, I am glad to read that. At least its not us spending more money to put more coffee pots on the fire trucks and us spending $$ each month for these speciality coffees as I have heard the townspeople do pay the FD now.
Do you know in some communities that the police has taken over the fire and they are cross trained. I agree, the town shouldn’t pay for FF’s to take EMT classes. They can’t by LAW use it. Should we pay the firefighters to carry guns and arrest people because some towns do it? Why spend the money on something they can’t use (but then again, we want to buy them a luxury pumper at 400,000 that will sit there).
I have seen the fire station and all the equipment they have. They have a lot more then most towns. You have to remember Lebanon is small, about 250 fire calls a year. Rochester doesnt have 14 vehicles, check out their website or talk to Norm. But since they have 20 times our tax base and 7 times our population, we should have 1/7 of their vehicles.
I just heard Lebanon Rescue go out on their 6th call of the day. Thats almost a full month for the fire department!!
Totally unbelieveable!! I think I am just going to call Wharterever, Dee, Greed, and on and on, Legion. Why change names like that? Your thought and the way you type are the same and your facts are always wrong!!!! Geesh, get a grip…Your not going to change anybodys mind that way…..
I also work at Goodall and I can assure you Lebanon Rescue is one of the best departments around. They sit with the patients at the hospital, they have helped drive family members over and they are so compassionate.
I also live in Lebanon and am very proud of these guys. They truly are amazing!!
Thank you rescue for all you do. I am proud to say I live in Lebanon.
I am not for a new fire truck right now, maybe when times get better. We desperately need another ambulance, I see these guys several times a day and they have to rush back for another call. If it doesn;t cost the taxpayers money, I don’t even realize why we have to vote on it?
I must say that I served on both departments and both have good volunteers. There is a lot of BS on the FD and I got done. The volunteers are great, the leadership lacks. They have lieutenants with no experience at all and they think they run everything.
This town does not need another new fire truck. We cannot get the current ones out in a timely fashion.
Greed, the rescue does have more trained firefighters then the fire dept, but that shouldn’t be an issue.
The issue is that the rescue needs a new ambulance, the fire department members know that (besides you) and see the rescue go out 3 times more then the fire dept.
All of your facts you mentioned are incorrect. And like others have said, most departments are not combined. They work better seperate as they have different jobs. We are lucky that we have Sam and Jason to get the grants and work the butts off to get the ambulance revenue to keep the operation self funded.
Its ok to admit your jealous
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Greed/Whartever or whatever your name is, LMAO,
Rochester has like 35,000 people, which is 7 times more then lebanon. How can you even compare, but they dont have 14 vehicles!!
And I have heard the fire truck is $400,000 – thats more then $350k you are misleading people on.
Since you seem to be a great pathological liar and mislead so well, have you thought about running for political office?
Rochester does have 14 vehicals, I never said they have 14 engines 3 are command cars, there is a forestry etc. But yes it totals 14.
Two. Open the door panel on the ambulance pretty sure it says make :2005
Fire does not submit nearly as many articles to the paper simply because people don’t need to know what is happening such as cleaning etc. and they dont need to worry about there press releases because Jason invites himself and does them.
Acuse me of being whoever you want but you are wrong in you assumptions. and yes you are correct rochester does have more people that is why I compaired us land wise. Lebanon is a very big area to cover 55.8 square miles. That is a lot of land.
as to the person who mentioned contracting FD’s Imagine the time is would take an engine to get to lebanon from sanford…
You call me Ignorant because you don’t like what I say but it is the truth you dont want to hear.
Greed is Wrong: you said you have toured lebanons fire station and we have more than most communites. In what way. we lack severly with tools compared to other surrounding departments so please tell me besides having 4 engines what else they have that others do not.
And what you heard is wrong the FD proposed 350K to the budget commitee for the new truck. at one point it was 400K but they have cut cost to make it more affordable so your taxes wont go up a total of 5 dollars this year.
good morning all.
Correction I ment for the door panel is says
Model Year:2005
And one more thing I never attacked getting another ambulance I just simple cant imagine wherer they will put it? Is it gonna stay at the Coles house on depot road just like the exedition.
as for the expedition being a 2010 maybe you dont know but automakers switch there model years 1/2 way through the year.
eg. aug 2009 means the car is a 2010.
And it is no unlawful for firefighters to respond and treat patients aslong as they are trained as emt’s (note sanford does it) However the town insurance would have to cover them which it currently does not.
I understand that most of you are in love with the rescue department because they are alway sharing things with you eg. PR but if you have ever noticed (and I doubt you have) Fire sponsers a little league team and lets out station be used by senior citizens etc.
But yeah they don’t publish that in the paper because you don’t need to know.
I honestly do not know what is going on here – this was my 1st time ever visiting or posting on this site (I learned of it from employees at Goodall) it will be my last time here – opinions and ideas should be free to share and not accusatory, I am speaking directly to “Former Member” when I say that – I will say that God forbid anything happen to me, my family or my home – I certainly do NOT want to be taken care of by rescue – actually there was a car accident once and they showed up about 30 seconds before I did – I grabbed my son and took him to the hospital myself – I do not like or trust the department. I have actually made it clear to my family that they are to call Goodall or Frisbie and have them come – and by the way – I know rescue attends lots of incidents – I have the pleasure of listening to my husbands stupid scanner for every little thing they do (even when they aren’t the ones being called upon) – why do they show up when fire has been called and not them? For their numbers that is why – I will say that more attention needs to be paid to what is actually happening.
I think that every selectman needs to be replaced and that both the fire and rescue chiefs need to have set terms – maybe then things would be a little clearer to you folks.
So much for a free exchange of thoughts and ideas.
WOW!! What a thing to wake up too….Do you rant often DEE? Hate is a powerful word. Careful what you pray for when you say you don’t want rescue to help you…..
You have said that before about not coming back here, but you seem to find a new name so you can. Next time when you get a new name, change how you type and don’t forget your punctuation!!!!!
Greed,
I spoke with Rochester FD this morning, they DO NOT HAVE 14 vehicles and laughed when I told them Lebanon FD says they do.
Dee, its too bad you feel that way, you are one of few – maybe thats why they are the busiest all volunteer department in the state and have so many patients that return their surveys that shows excellent care?????
Dee, sometimes the dispatch forgets to tone either fire or rescue to a call. The rescue only goes if there is a MOI. Like the fire dept has self toned themselves to many calls when just rescue went.
Greed: Call Maine EMS, Lebanon Fire cannot perform any patient care – it is UNLAWFUL. They are not licensed to do so. Sanford can as they have a combined dept – learn about things before you state them – it shows your ignorance.
Its funny every article I have seen says 2003 the ambulance was voted on and I got a copy of the town report and there it was – 2003!!! So again, you have no clue and everytime you post, you lose more votes because people see your lies!!
And you are also wrong on the expedition, it is a 2009. Call Starkey Ford or stop in and I am sure Jason or Sam will show you the registration
Or does the State lie now when they do registrations, LMAO!!!!
The point is, you are jealous of the rescue and you make the FD look very bad with your lies!
I am the same way with the FD – if I ever need anything for my family, I will make sure we do it ourself. They are hilarious to watch and if the clown car ever shows up because I have a little camp fire and am burning legally, I will laugh even more!!
90% of the FD calls are self generated to make their numbers look better – they drive around looking for kids roasting marshmallows!!
Dee, I feel the same way about Goodall Hospital where you say you work – there is someone from accounting over there from Lebanon who makes the whole hospital look bad!!!
I would rather bring my family to the vet clinic on Rte 202 then Goodall Hospital!!
I would call Lebanon Rescue anyday for my family, and I have – they are truly great!!
LMAO Laugh……I HAD to go to Good All Hospital yesterday, I truly don’t like it at all. I’d rather be at Frisbie. Which dept. do you work in Dee at Good All? I’m not saying what I am thinking lol………..
Jason and Sam and the volunteers are truly caring about others and the MOST honest people I know. No wonder you don’t like thme Dee…..
I am amazed when I read some of these posts. We are so fortunate to have a rescue department that has cost us nothing, all of their equipment has been through donations and grants and they have received several awards for their work.
I read through the fire log after reading what the FF wrote about the rescue announcing that the volunteers once again went above and beyond by doing the entire painting and crack filling and saving us $2,000. The FD’s weekly logs have had no calls some weeks and they have several entries of “mopped the floors” then another “entry/call” for taking the trash out. Wow, i guess since they have no calls some weeks, this to them is newsworthy, lol.
I was recently advised that the fire department also always PAID its members once a week to clean the station an hourly wage like $13.00 an hour. Fortunately our selectmen cut that item with this current years budget. Why should the members get paid to take the trash out? They already get paid more for a stipend then the rescue, even though they have 1/3 the calls and 1/3 the people. Obviously they needed to be paid extra for doing the trash when the rescue volunteers seem to be here for the right reasons. From what I hear, the rescue volunteers take turns cleaning. At least the selectmen caught this and stopped it!!!
First regarding Rochester FD. Count the Vehicals on there website (you might have to take of your shoes) there are 14 listed.
The point system is the same for both depts.
here is the timeline of the ambulance
-Voted on 2003
-Ordered 2004
-Delivered Mid-late 2004 (2005 model year)
anything else do I need to draw it for you? just wondering.
As for Illegal burns. Burn Permits are free and it is pure lazy-ness to not get one or you are burning illegal materials.
The fire dept. must respond to anything it is toned for the same with rescue.(even if it is kids with marshmallows)
again if there are any respectful questions you may have and not bashing I will do my best to answer them.
(and for the logs that mention cleaning etc. that is the same format that rescue does.)
as i continually read the postings about ambulance versus fire truck,fire truck versus ambulance maybe residents should step back and look at another picture.the road budget has $275,000 left over from winter budget.the selectmen added $200,000 to the budget this year resulting in a $1.2 MILLION dollar budget.why not put the left over money into the general fund and keep the road budget as it was.(the town could appropriate $4 MILLION for the road budget and residents will still have sub-par work as we are used to).when the fire truck is approved the town will already have this money saved.whether it be this year or two years from now.being self-employed for over twenty-fire years i thought the whole idea is to strive to better ones self (the town in this case)and flourish not funnel money over and over again hoping they’ll eventually get it right.the stimulas money didn’t happen last year.we’ve been doing it forever for a select few.
Actually, I looked at the chiefs report for the rescue and they do not put normal station maintenance things down.
And you are very wrong on the ambulance. I called Jason today and if you look at the ambulance dedication held in February 2004 when the ambulance arrived – LOL – just shows your ignorance. Shows you truly have no clue, it is not a 2005 ambulance – but its funny to see how little you truly do know.
I wasnt aware that you were counting the vehicles the chiefs drive to work as apparatus. Then if you count the fire chief for lebanon who gets paid like $500 a month to use his personal vehicle on top of his $1500 a month salary, we have 8 they have 14. They have 7 times the population and about 30 times the calls.
Its sad that you make the entire fire department look ignorant, but if your one of their high performing members, I am very scared!!!! I heard a joke from another city’s fire department about Lebanon. They said they respond to all Lebanon fires and you guys haven’t lost a cellar yet!! LMFAO – ROFL!!
Why do we fix fire trucks to the point they work fine, they have a warranty and we are told we don’t need it this year – isn’t that the same as the roads?
my point was the left over money and the extra money added this year could pay for a new truck AND ambulance.i know rescue have their own account but i wanted to show what throwing money out the window would buy.as i wrote whether this year or in the future the purchase will happen.
As again I will explain about the ambulance delivered in late 2004 the vehicals model year is that of a 2005. Vehical manufacturers do not follow the julian calander year. there year start and ends mid year.
eg a vehcial purchased in july/ aug 2009 is a 2010 model year.
What the chiefs do or dont receive is non of my concern and you would be better of asking them.
Chris I am unsure if you had seen my previous post about the road budget and new fire truck.
350,000
-200,000 (left over)
——————————-
=150,000
-200,000 (road budget increase)
= +50,000
And why dont you ask other town what they think of our rescue department, I have friends on Acton, Shapleigh, Alfred, and Milton and non of them respect our rescue department.
There is also some unhappy factions within rescue at this time over the favoratism over paying for peoples classes much like the ill scratch your back if you scratch mine world of the selectmen.
i had seen your previous post.several residents have asked me why this money isn’t put back in the surplus account when spring is next week and there is $275,000 left.we voted for a summer and a winter budget not a combined budget as they are trying to slip through this year.i am not hear to bash rescue or fire because i respect both departments for all they do.i am just throwing an idea out there for residents to ponder.
No, Chris don’t get me wrong Its my tax money too I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t Crazy.
Would there be a way to get an Special Accountant from the state to come down and audit the towns books, to see exaclty where the money is going and how much is being “misplaced” by our faithful leaders?
Greed, I am not sure how February is late 2004, once again you show your ignorance! Check the registration or call Jason or Sam – call Ford (I think Granite Ford does their work).
I have friends on the same towns and that is why they call Lebanon Rescue a lot – they do respect them and they have asked them to help set up policies. Thats why several rescue members belong to those same towns and Lebanon. That is also why Lebanon Rescue receives so many awards!
We should put money into the roads, they need it desperately and the fire department has said they don’t need the truck, they are just greedy. I would rather see roads done and done right then for a fire truck to sit in a station and do nothing.
I think when you say the towns dont respect a department, its the fire department. They dont ever get called even when the call is on the lebanon line. Every fire department around laughs at our fire department – but as the full time firefighter said, Lebanon hasn’t lost a cellar yet.
Jason, is it possible you could post a copy of the registration on here to show how ignorant Greed/Wharterver is?
Fortunately greed/whartever is one of very few opinions this way and maybe its time for daddy to come turn the computer off….
And greed, they are asking for $400,000 for the new fire truck, I confirmed that tonight.
And unlike fire, the members get a long. Anyone who has put in for training, was covered. But I know you don’t understand the concept of money, but when the training budget is used, its all used. They cant just send everyone. I got denied going to a training, but I understand with the limited budget the rescue has, that not everyone can go. But everyone who signed up for the advanced life support class went.
Just more ignorance, whartever. I talked to some people who was in favor of the fire truck until they saw your posts, and now I think they have reconsidered. You are doing a great job making sure you DONT get the fire truck!!
LMAO – keep up the great work of trying to mis-inform the citizens and scare them – its not working!!
VOTE NO NEW FIRE TRUCK!!
I agree with amazing and the other posts, greed is showing his true name – they have said they don’t need the truck – so dont waste our time or money.
I also agree, the more he posts, the more people get turned off from the whole fire truck and fire dept.
Really because I was definatly at the meeting where they asked for 350,000 but yes if you round up that is 400,000.
and you know that the roads will not be done right until we get an outside town manager to run this town. BTW all the full time departments around us have called us for mutual aide at one time or another so sorry you are wrong.
you think I am greedy because I am pro safe equipment. ha. I am sorry the Coles’ have Brainwashed you into thinking they do no evil and they are perfect. that is funny and well honestly I Laugh out Loud at that.
Oh and BTW Fire has citations from the state aswell but they do not need to put it in the paper the volunteers know the good work they do and that is enough for them. again the public does not have a need to know.
I am a rescue member and find it funny that someone not on our department is commenting on our department and a perceived friction. Trust me, I served on many departments and this by far is the best administered and everyone gets along. Sam and Jason have made it very clear at meetings that no one bad mouths the others while they are at the station. I used to be on the fire department and had to leave because i couldnt put up with the BS and badmouthing of other people. They bad mouthed other departments during meetings and in the bays after. And if you want to talk about favoritism, its the fire dept – unless you are in a click of members, you get nothing. Look at the officers now – they have no experience.
I have friends on all the departments you mention and they call Lebanon because we cant get a crew and they like working with us. We have members helping teach a basic class in acton and helping their chief set up their policies.
Greed or whartever your name is today from the other posts, you are doing the fire department an in-justice every time you lie and open your mouth – though comical, its sad that people now perceive you as the poster CHILD of the department. There are some good members on the fire department who care and tell the truth. I am so turned off by the negative campaign you have done to discredit the rescue, I am also going to encourage everyone I know to vote no on the fire truck.
Greed.
Once again you are wrong!!!
I purposely asked tonight at the supper at the station and they said it was like $79,000 a year for 5 years. Thats $395,000 .
I know you have shown your ignorance several times already – but:
$395,000 is closer to $400,000 Its $5000 less.
$395,000 is not close to $350,000, its $45,000 less.
So, maybe you should check your math!!
LMAO!!
LMAO to all the posts – everytime I see a post from greed or whartever his name is tonight, I see the votes going down for the new truck!!
I agree, it seems $400,000 is a lot closer to $395,000 then $350,000 is – and I am not a math major!!!
I also agree, I have heard several other fire departments say they would never call Lebanon fire.
Greed, what citations did the fd get? I know they got a combined one with the rescue for the work the rescue did and 1 member about 4 years ago?
I think its good that the state announces this things and that Lebanon Rescue has won so many distinquished awards.